I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
noticed before. My search brought me directly to www.letterboxing.org
I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting for
a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our house.
We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area I
had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them I
was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I told
them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of a
parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play. My
daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name and
number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went there
and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
(
This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
What can/should I do????
Thanks!
Jeni
Police Involvement
18 messages in this thread |
Started on 2004-07-28
Police Involvement
From: jenireis (jenireis@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 23:09:08 UTC
Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Laura Taylor (laura9193@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 16:26:41 UTC-07:00
As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you were just having innocent fun.
Mama Bear
jenireis wrote:
I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
noticed before. My search brought me directly to www.letterboxing.org
I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting for
a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our house.
We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area I
had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them I
was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I told
them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of a
parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play. My
daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name and
number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went there
and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
(
This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
What can/should I do????
Thanks!
Jeni
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Mama Bear
jenireis
I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
noticed before. My search brought me directly to www.letterboxing.org
I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting for
a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our house.
We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area I
had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them I
was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I told
them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of a
parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play. My
daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name and
number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went there
and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
(
This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
What can/should I do????
Thanks!
Jeni
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: jenireis (jenireis@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 23:33:20 UTC
I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys came
up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even though
they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops over.
Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel like
it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd come
find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
placed the box.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
wrote:
> As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if
someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
were just having innocent fun.
>
> Mama Bear
>
> jenireis wrote:
> I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
> the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> noticed before. My search brought me directly to
www.letterboxing.org
>
> I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
> under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
for
> a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
house.
> We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area
I
> had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
> old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them
I
> was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
told
> them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
> with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
> asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
> yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of
a
> parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
> asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
>
> The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
My
> daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
and
> number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
> park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
> to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
there
> and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
>
> Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
> the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
> (
>
> This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
>
> What can/should I do????
>
> Thanks!
> Jeni
>
>
>
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up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even though
they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops over.
Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel like
it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd come
find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
placed the box.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
wrote:
> As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if
someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
were just having innocent fun.
>
> Mama Bear
>
> jenireis
> I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
> the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> noticed before. My search brought me directly to
www.letterboxing.org
>
> I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
> under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
for
> a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
house.
> We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area
I
> had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
> old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them
I
> was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
told
> them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
> with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
> asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
> yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of
a
> parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
> asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
>
> The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
My
> daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
and
> number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
> park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
> to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
there
> and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
>
> Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
> the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
> (
>
> This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
>
> What can/should I do????
>
> Thanks!
> Jeni
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: (mindizney@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 19:33:23 UTC-04:00
Hi Jeni!
I'm sorry to hear about your experience. When I box, I try to never tell
anyone what I'm doing. Many people outside of the sport don't understand the
sport, so I feel as though it's better to just keep quiet. Also, I wouldn't take
pictures of people you don't know, especially children. Without the parents'
consent, even if the children give consent, the parents may go totally insane
over the fact that a stranger has taken their picture.
Hopefully, the police won't pull all of the boxes in the area. I'd contact
the placers directly (using the contact placer button on the website clues) in
the area to tell them about the problem and to have them periodically check on
their boxes. That way, they can post if the boxes have gone missing.
Good luck! I hope you keep boxing!
Music Woman
in CT
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I'm sorry to hear about your experience. When I box, I try to never tell
anyone what I'm doing. Many people outside of the sport don't understand the
sport, so I feel as though it's better to just keep quiet. Also, I wouldn't take
pictures of people you don't know, especially children. Without the parents'
consent, even if the children give consent, the parents may go totally insane
over the fact that a stranger has taken their picture.
Hopefully, the police won't pull all of the boxes in the area. I'd contact
the placers directly (using the contact placer button on the website clues) in
the area to tell them about the problem and to have them periodically check on
their boxes. That way, they can post if the boxes have gone missing.
Good luck! I hope you keep boxing!
Music Woman
in CT
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: John Chapman (john@johnsblog.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 19:36:01 UTC-04:00
The person that placed the box should contact the police and ask for the contents back after the police cut out the fingerprints from the journal.
That should work.
Choi
----- Original Message -----
From: jenireis
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 19:33
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys came
up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even though
they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops over.
Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel like
it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd come
find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
placed the box.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
wrote:
> As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if
someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
were just having innocent fun.
>
> Mama Bear
>
> jenireis wrote:
> I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
> the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> noticed before. My search brought me directly to
www.letterboxing.org
>
> I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
> under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
for
> a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
house.
> We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area
I
> had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
> old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them
I
> was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
told
> them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
> with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
> asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
> yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of
a
> parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
> asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
>
> The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
My
> daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
and
> number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
> park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
> to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
there
> and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
>
> Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
> the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
> (
>
> This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
>
> What can/should I do????
>
> Thanks!
> Jeni
>
>
>
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That should work.
Choi
----- Original Message -----
From: jenireis
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 19:33
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys came
up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even though
they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops over.
Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel like
it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd come
find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
placed the box.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
wrote:
> As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if
someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
were just having innocent fun.
>
> Mama Bear
>
> jenireis
> I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came across
> the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> noticed before. My search brought me directly to
www.letterboxing.org
>
> I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters (both
> under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
for
> a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
house.
> We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded area
I
> had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8 year
> old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told them
I
> was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
told
> them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung up
> with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps. I
> asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
> yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part of
a
> parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up and
> asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
>
> The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
My
> daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
and
> number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to the
> park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she wanted
> to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
there
> and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
>
> Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how awful
> the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the area:
> (
>
> This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
>
> What can/should I do????
>
> Thanks!
> Jeni
>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: jenireis (jenireis@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 23:43:22 UTC
Thanks:)
I'm NEVER taking pictures of anyone I don't know again. I just
thought it would be cool since they're the ones who helped me find
my first letterbox. Never again though! I'll just take pictures of
the box and my family from now on. I swear! Also, I won't tell
anyone what I'm doing. If I would have just told the kids I was
looking at flowers I'm sure none of this would have happened. Thanks
for the advice!
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John Chapman"
wrote:
> The person that placed the box should contact the police and ask
for the contents back after the police cut out the fingerprints from
the journal.
>
> That should work.
>
> Choi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jenireis
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 19:33
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
>
>
> I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys
came
> up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even
though
> they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents
got
> involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he
told
> them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops
over.
> Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel
like
> it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
> someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
> upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
>
> Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek
with
> the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd
come
> find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the
parents...
>
> I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace
the
> box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
> placed the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
> wrote:
> > As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried
if
> someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to
me
> first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
> were just having innocent fun.
> >
> > Mama Bear
> >
> > jenireis wrote:
> > I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came
across
> > the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> > noticed before. My search brought me directly to
> www.letterboxing.org
> >
> > I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters
(both
> > under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went
hunting
> for
> > a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
> house.
> > We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded
area
> I
> > had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going
into
> > wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8
year
> > old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told
them
> I
> > was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
> told
> > them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I
hung up
> > with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was
exactly
> > what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let
the
> > boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have
stamps. I
> > asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they
said
> > yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on
the
> > playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part
of
> a
> > parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up
and
> > asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing
and
> > even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
> >
> > The story continues, I returned to the park today just for
play.
> My
> > daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to
me
> > again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my
name
> and
> > number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and
I'd
> > destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to
the
> > park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> > believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she
wanted
> > to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
> there
> > and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
> >
> > Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how
awful
> > the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> > website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> > they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the
area:
> > (
> >
> > This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
> >
> > What can/should I do????
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jeni
> >
> >
> >
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I'm NEVER taking pictures of anyone I don't know again. I just
thought it would be cool since they're the ones who helped me find
my first letterbox. Never again though! I'll just take pictures of
the box and my family from now on. I swear! Also, I won't tell
anyone what I'm doing. If I would have just told the kids I was
looking at flowers I'm sure none of this would have happened. Thanks
for the advice!
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "John Chapman"
wrote:
> The person that placed the box should contact the police and ask
for the contents back after the police cut out the fingerprints from
the journal.
>
> That should work.
>
> Choi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jenireis
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 19:33
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
>
>
> I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys
came
> up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even
though
> they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents
got
> involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he
told
> them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops
over.
> Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel
like
> it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
> someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
> upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
>
> Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek
with
> the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd
come
> find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the
parents...
>
> I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace
the
> box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
> placed the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
> wrote:
> > As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried
if
> someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to
me
> first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
> were just having innocent fun.
> >
> > Mama Bear
> >
> > jenireis
> > I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came
across
> > the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> > noticed before. My search brought me directly to
> www.letterboxing.org
> >
> > I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters
(both
> > under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went
hunting
> for
> > a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
> house.
> > We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded
area
> I
> > had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going
into
> > wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8
year
> > old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told
them
> I
> > was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
> told
> > them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I
hung up
> > with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was
exactly
> > what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let
the
> > boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have
stamps. I
> > asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they
said
> > yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on
the
> > playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part
of
> a
> > parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up
and
> > asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing
and
> > even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
> >
> > The story continues, I returned to the park today just for
play.
> My
> > daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to
me
> > again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my
name
> and
> > number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and
I'd
> > destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to
the
> > park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> > believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she
wanted
> > to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
> there
> > and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
> >
> > Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how
awful
> > the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> > website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> > they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the
area:
> > (
> >
> > This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
> >
> > What can/should I do????
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jeni
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/letterbox-usa/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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> Service.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!
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>
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> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Q (puppygirl13@sbcglobal.net) |
Date: 2004-07-28 23:52:43 UTC
Yes, secrecy is the best thing. If anyone asks, "my dog lost her ball
in this vicinity." Or, if I don't have her with me, I'm collecting
bugs to feed to my pet frogs.:) -Q
in this vicinity." Or, if I don't have her with me, I'm collecting
bugs to feed to my pet frogs.:) -Q
Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: (CountdownTo55@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-07-28 19:53:16 UTC-04:00
In a message dated 7/28/2004 6:23:00 PM Central Standard Time,
jenireis@yahoo.com writes:
I
asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they said
yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I just wanted to comment on this part.
It's different in a lot of other countries, but in the U.S., one never ever
wants to take any photos of minors without getting parental permission first,
preferably in writing. It can create a boatload of problems for the
photographer if a parent (or any other adult in the area) decides to object. You
were lucky the police just took you at your word that you'd destroy the
negative and let it go at that.
With my photography work, I'm very very careful nowadays. Photographing
minors has become a serious issue in today's world. No matter how innocent it
might be on the part of the photographer when it happens, the parents have no
way of knowing that for sure.
A pedophile could place a box near a children's camp just for the purpose of
either luring children into the woods, or to take photos of children.
Possibly whoever placed the box didn't realize there would be a daycare taking
place in such close vicinity to where they placed the box.
So both on a "take no photos of minors" front and on a "pedophiles do things
like lure children away so that they can abduct them" front, both the
counselors responsible for the care of the children and the parents of those
children could understandably be expected to be somewhat anxious and upset.
Pippi L
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 00:27:56 UTC
SHHHHHH!
Psychomom
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Q" wrote:
> Yes, secrecy is the best thing. If anyone asks, "my dog lost her
ball
> in this vicinity." Or, if I don't have her with me, I'm collecting
> bugs to feed to my pet frogs.:) -Q
Psychomom
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Q"
> Yes, secrecy is the best thing. If anyone asks, "my dog lost her
ball
> in this vicinity." Or, if I don't have her with me, I'm collecting
> bugs to feed to my pet frogs.:) -Q
RE: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Pam Kleingers (pam@kleingers.net) |
Date: 2004-07-28 21:11:08 UTC-04:00
A couple of thoughts here:
While I understand the parents' concern, seems to me they should be a bit
more worried that their children who were supposedly in some sort of rec
program were wandering around and talking to strangers!!
Also, don't assume the police took the box--it is possible that some one
else happened upon it; if the boys found it, so could someone else, or one
of their buddies etc etc. I think the advice to contact the placer is good.
Welcome to the world of letterboxing--as you have learned it is a hobby best
practiced discreetly. I hope this experience wasn't too horrendous and
that you continue to grow in the sport.
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
While I understand the parents' concern, seems to me they should be a bit
more worried that their children who were supposedly in some sort of rec
program were wandering around and talking to strangers!!
Also, don't assume the police took the box--it is possible that some one
else happened upon it; if the boys found it, so could someone else, or one
of their buddies etc etc. I think the advice to contact the placer is good.
Welcome to the world of letterboxing--as you have learned it is a hobby best
practiced discreetly. I hope this experience wasn't too horrendous and
that you continue to grow in the sport.
Mama Stork
aka Pam in Cinci
>
Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: The Family (lynnieth2003@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 01:23:21 UTC
>>> Now I feel like it's my fault and it's totally not!
While you certainly meant no harm, the fact is, it sort of is your
fault. Put yourself in those parents' position- wouldn't you want
to insure that your children's image & fingerprints were
confiscated? Some debate has been lofted about today about elitists
& snobs, but the fact is, that the general public, even with the
help of TIME & CNN do not know about letterboxing, nor do they
care. However, should they stumble upon a box, some unfortunate
soles are likely to be unkind to the boxes- like your police
officers. Your harmless hobby is their predator's tool. It's
always best to be discreet, keep to yourself & enjoy the hobby with
friends & family. Should you find a fellow boxer on the trail,
fabulous! But most people out there, however kind they may seem, may
not be out there boxing. Consider it a lesson learned for the first
time out & hopefully all your future experiences will be stress-free
& full of fun! Hang in there!
For the record, whenever we box, I cannot help but think of poor
Elmer Fudd tromping through the forest whispering "Shhh... we're
hunting wabbits..."
The Family :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "jenireis"
wrote:
> I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys
came
> up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even
though
> they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
> involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
> them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops
over.
> Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel
like
> it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
> someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
> upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
>
> Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
> the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd
come
> find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
>
> I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
> box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
> placed the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
> wrote:
> > As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried
if
> someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
> first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
> were just having innocent fun.
> >
> > Mama Bear
> >
> > jenireis wrote:
> > I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came
across
> > the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> > noticed before. My search brought me directly to
> www.letterboxing.org
> >
> > I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters
(both
> > under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
> for
> > a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
> house.
> > We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded
area
> I
> > had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> > wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8
year
> > old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told
them
> I
> > was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
> told
> > them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung
up
> > with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> > what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> > boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps.
I
> > asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they
said
> > yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> > playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part
of
> a
> > parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up
and
> > asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> > even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
> >
> > The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
> My
> > daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> > again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
> and
> > number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> > destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to
the
> > park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> > believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she
wanted
> > to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
> there
> > and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
> >
> > Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how
awful
> > the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> > website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> > they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the
area:
> > (
> >
> > This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
> >
> > What can/should I do????
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jeni
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/letterbox-usa/
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > letterbox-usa-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!
> >
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While you certainly meant no harm, the fact is, it sort of is your
fault. Put yourself in those parents' position- wouldn't you want
to insure that your children's image & fingerprints were
confiscated? Some debate has been lofted about today about elitists
& snobs, but the fact is, that the general public, even with the
help of TIME & CNN do not know about letterboxing, nor do they
care. However, should they stumble upon a box, some unfortunate
soles are likely to be unkind to the boxes- like your police
officers. Your harmless hobby is their predator's tool. It's
always best to be discreet, keep to yourself & enjoy the hobby with
friends & family. Should you find a fellow boxer on the trail,
fabulous! But most people out there, however kind they may seem, may
not be out there boxing. Consider it a lesson learned for the first
time out & hopefully all your future experiences will be stress-free
& full of fun! Hang in there!
For the record, whenever we box, I cannot help but think of poor
Elmer Fudd tromping through the forest whispering "Shhh... we're
hunting wabbits..."
The Family :)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "jenireis"
wrote:
> I totally understand your point. I'd be upset too, but the boys
came
> up to me. I had no idea they were with parks and rec and even
though
> they were I totally spoke with the counsler before the parents got
> involved. He told the parents that everything was fine and he told
> them about me and everything. But they still brought the cops
over.
> Ok, even that I don't mind. But to remove the box??? Now I feel
like
> it's my fault and it's totally not! I feel awful that I ruined
> someones box placement. I don't even care that the parents are
> upset, I'm more upset that someones notebook was taken away:(
>
> Not to mention that the counslers were playing hide and seek with
> the kids. They told the kids to go hide in the woods and they'd
come
> find them. I'd be more worried about that if I were the parents...
>
> I'm wondering what the proper thing to do is. Should I replace the
> box myself? I've already contacted the the person who originally
> placed the box.
>
>
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Laura Taylor
> wrote:
> > As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried
if
> someone took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me
> first. So I do understand their point and I understand that you
> were just having innocent fun.
> >
> > Mama Bear
> >
> > jenireis
> > I had a horrible first experience with letterboxing. I came
across
> > the website because I was looking up a local park I had never
> > noticed before. My search brought me directly to
> www.letterboxing.org
> >
> > I was so excited to begin that I packed up my two daughters
(both
> > under 2 years old) this past tuesday morning and we went hunting
> for
> > a letterbox that was supposedly at the park right next to our
> house.
> > We walked to the park and began looking. While in the wooded
area
> I
> > had my grandmother on the phone because I don't like going into
> > wooded areas alone. While talking to her on the phone four 8
year
> > old boys came up to me and asked me what I was doing. I told
them
> I
> > was looking for a box. They asked me what it looked like and I
> told
> > them I didn't know. They said they knew where a box was. I hung
up
> > with my grandmother and followed them to the box. It was exactly
> > what I was looking for! I thought it was so cool! I even let the
> > boys fingerprint the pad of paper since they didn't have stamps.
I
> > asked if I could take their picture for my scrapbook and they
said
> > yes. After I stamped we went out of the woods and played on the
> > playground, just me and my daughters. Well, the boys were part
of
> a
> > parks and rec daycare like thing. One of the counslers came up
and
> > asked me what I was doing. I told him all about letterboxing and
> > even gave him the website. He seemed cool with it.
> >
> > The story continues, I returned to the park today just for play.
> My
> > daughter loves to swing there. Well, the counsler came up to me
> > again and said that some parents complained. I gave him my name
> and
> > number and said the parents could call me if they wanted and I'd
> > destroy the picture. Well, I guess they had the police come to
the
> > park Tuesday afternoon (just hours after I had left). I can't
> > believe it! I took a friend over this afternoon because she
wanted
> > to start letterboxing (she read the article in Time). We went
> there
> > and the box was missing. I'm assuming the police took it.
> >
> > Does this happen often? I am mortified! I can't believe how
awful
> > the parents and police are acting. I'm hoping they'll see the
> > website and realize it's all innocent. However, I'm so afraid
> > they'll see the site and remove all of the letterboxes in the
area:
> > (
> >
> > This is not stopping me from letterboxing. We had so much fun!
> >
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Re: Police Involvement
From: ncginger2000 (ncginger2000@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 02:23:14 UTC
I guess this is the case in point as to why we should be secretive. I'm a mom of two
myself and, while I might be a bit concerned about the photo and the fingerprint
thing, I would be more concerned about why the counselors had felt they could turn a
bunch of eight-yr.-olds loose in the woods. Had they checked the woods beforehand
to make sure there weren't any "nasties" lurking? Obviously, the kids weren't being
"sought" very actively if they had time to stamp in with you.
BTW, my usual story if I come on people while boxing is that I'm scouting locations
for portraits. Always carry my camera... One scrapbooker to another...
Ginger
myself and, while I might be a bit concerned about the photo and the fingerprint
thing, I would be more concerned about why the counselors had felt they could turn a
bunch of eight-yr.-olds loose in the woods. Had they checked the woods beforehand
to make sure there weren't any "nasties" lurking? Obviously, the kids weren't being
"sought" very actively if they had time to stamp in with you.
BTW, my usual story if I come on people while boxing is that I'm scouting locations
for portraits. Always carry my camera... One scrapbooker to another...
Ginger
Re: Police Involvement
From: nishakamada (nishakamada@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 05:21:51 UTC
Wow, what a drag. I think I want to put in a word of support for you
however, [even at risk of being flamed, I must love my feet close to
the fire ooh hotter!!] I don't live in a state where there are many
letterboxers but I have often not hidden my activites and shared with
hikers etc what it is that I am doing. It is true that I size them up
first and feel it out but I am trying to get more people involved and
as many people have said on this list, the best way to do that is to
actually letterbox with them. I tend to believe that most people are
good at heart and not dishonest, else how would e-bay survive?
As to the boys, yeah I guess that maybe it could seem scary to the
parents but really, what camp counsler should be sending 8 year old
boys into the woods to play hide and go seek in a public park? I am
also guessing that by your name you are female and you stated that
you were accompanied by your very young daughters, which as a parent I
would immediately consider you harmless and besides how many convicted
pedophiles have been female?
however, [even at risk of being flamed, I must love my feet close to
the fire ooh hotter!!] I don't live in a state where there are many
letterboxers but I have often not hidden my activites and shared with
hikers etc what it is that I am doing. It is true that I size them up
first and feel it out but I am trying to get more people involved and
as many people have said on this list, the best way to do that is to
actually letterbox with them. I tend to believe that most people are
good at heart and not dishonest, else how would e-bay survive?
As to the boys, yeah I guess that maybe it could seem scary to the
parents but really, what camp counsler should be sending 8 year old
boys into the woods to play hide and go seek in a public park? I am
also guessing that by your name you are female and you stated that
you were accompanied by your very young daughters, which as a parent I
would immediately consider you harmless and besides how many convicted
pedophiles have been female?
RE: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Kerri Paul (kerripaul@peoplepc.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 07:47:09 UTC-04:00
Personally, I'd be MORE upset that the counselors weren't watching my kids!
I mean letting them roam the wooded areas unattended? They are just not
being careful enough, especially considering what they charge for these
programs.
Kerri,
Lone Pony of the Unlucky Letterboxers
As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if someone
took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me first. So I do
understand their point and I understand that you were just having innocent
fun.
Mama Bear
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I mean letting them roam the wooded areas unattended? They are just not
being careful enough, especially considering what they charge for these
programs.
Kerri,
Lone Pony of the Unlucky Letterboxers
As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if someone
took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me first. So I do
understand their point and I understand that you were just having innocent
fun.
Mama Bear
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RE: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Doodle & Deedle Bug (doodle_n_deedle@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 07:06:41 UTC-07:00
Just to throw my 2-cents in here too, I agree with what Kerri wrote. Having worked as a camp counselor at a day camp in the past, as a parent (if I were a parent) I'd also be upset that the kids were allowed to wander away, unsupervised, and I'd be thankful that the stranger they came up to was friendly with no ill intentions. It almost sounds to me, with the police getting involved, that they were looking for a scapegoat instead of placing the blame with the counselors who let the kids wander. I can completey understand - was it Jeni? - telling those kids what she was doing, though. I mean, when you run into adults on the trail, chances are unless they're a 'boxer they won't "get it" and to protect the secrecy aspect you tell them you're on a nature hike, you're taking photos, or my favorite, you start making out with your boyfriend ;) But when 3 little boys come up all, "Hi! What are you doing?" and eagerness on their faces it's harder not to let them in on the fun.
Fingerprints...I remember that there was a discussion a few months ago as to wether fingerprints were acceptable as a "signature stamp." I think someone created a poll about it.
That's all...
Doodle.
Kerri Paul wrote:
Personally, I'd be MORE upset that the counselors weren't watching my kids!
I mean letting them roam the wooded areas unattended? They are just not
being careful enough, especially considering what they charge for these
programs.
Kerri,
Lone Pony of the Unlucky Letterboxers
As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if someone
took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me first. So I do
understand their point and I understand that you were just having innocent
fun.
Mama Bear
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Fingerprints...I remember that there was a discussion a few months ago as to wether fingerprints were acceptable as a "signature stamp." I think someone created a poll about it.
That's all...
Doodle.
Kerri Paul
Personally, I'd be MORE upset that the counselors weren't watching my kids!
I mean letting them roam the wooded areas unattended? They are just not
being careful enough, especially considering what they charge for these
programs.
Kerri,
Lone Pony of the Unlucky Letterboxers
As a mom of a 13 and 10 year old I would definitely be worried if someone
took my sons picture AND fingerprint without talking to me first. So I do
understand their point and I understand that you were just having innocent
fun.
Mama Bear
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: (stenbock@aol.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 16:34:57 UTC-04:00
An idea for a cover...if you don't have a camera handy, take out a notebook
and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
Just a couple of thoughts...
Mike
Actually, adv. Perhaps; possibly. (Ambrose Bierce, THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY)
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and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
Just a couple of thoughts...
Mike
Actually, adv. Perhaps; possibly. (Ambrose Bierce, THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY)
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: Joshua DeVine (locos1and2@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2004-07-29 15:20:25 UTC-07:00
I always take my journal and write. That usually stops people from asking questions.......or I just make out with my boyfriend.
Ceci of Dos Locos
stenbock@aol.com wrote:
An idea for a cover...if you don't have a camera handy, take out a notebook
and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
Just a couple of thoughts...
Mike
Actually, adv. Perhaps; possibly. (Ambrose Bierce, THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY)
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stenbock@aol.com wrote:
An idea for a cover...if you don't have a camera handy, take out a notebook
and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
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Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
From: irishtinker (irishtinker@charter.net) |
Date: 2004-07-29 19:14:15 UTC-04:00
Haha! This reminds me of a story my sister (Letterboxing name: Odillio) told (hope she doesn't mind me sharing) She had stamped into Stars and Stripes Forever at Nathan Hale Homestead. She had just rehid the box when a women from the homestead approached her and asked if she could help her. Odillio said "I'm sketching the homestead." The women looked puzzled and said "Excuse me?" To which Odilio said "You know with a pencil and paper!" The problem was Odilio didn't have a pencil or paper in her hand! The women must have thought she was a nut!
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Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Police Involvement
An idea for a cover...if you don't have a camera handy, take out a notebook
and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
Just a couple of thoughts...
Mike
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An idea for a cover...if you don't have a camera handy, take out a notebook
and pretend to be sketching something you found nearby, like a twig or a rock!
Or have a magnifying glass and pretend to be examining something closely.
Just a couple of thoughts...
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